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		<title>By: Todd Wilhelm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Wilhelm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 11:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote from C.S. Lewis:

&quot;There is a strange idea abroad that in every subject the 
ancient books should be read only by the professionals, and 
that the amateur should content himself with the modern 
books.... [Students are directed not to Plato but to books on 
Plato]— all about ‘isms’ and inﬂuences and only once in 
twelve pages telling him what Plato actually said.... But if 
he only knew,the great man, just because of his greatness, is 
much more intelligible than his modern commentator.... 
Now this seems to me topsy-turvy. Naturally, since I 
myself am a writer, I do not wish the ordinary reader to 
read no modern books. But if he must read only the new or 
only the old, I would advise him to read the old. And I 
would give him this advice precisely because he is an ama- 
teur and therefore much less protected than the expert 
against the dangers of an exclusive contemporary diet. A 
new book is still on its trial and the amateur is not in a 
position to judge it. It has to be tested against the great 
body of Christian thought down the ages, and all its hid- 
den implications (often unsuspected by the author himself) 
have to be brought to light.... 

It is a good rule, after reading a new book, never to 
allow yourself another new one till you have read an old 
one in between. If that is too much for you, you should at 
least read one old one to every three new ones.... 
We all, therefore, need the books that will correct the 
characteristic mistakes of our own period. And that means 
the old books. . . . We may be sure that the characteristic 
blindness of the twentieth century—the blindness about 
which posterity will ask, “But how could they have 
thought that?”—lies where we have never suspected it, and 
concerns something about which there is untroubled 
agreement between Hitler and President Roosevelt or 
between Mr. H. G. Wells and Karl Barth. None of us can 
fully escape this blindness.... The only palliative is to keep 
the clean sea breeze of the centuries blowing through our 
minds, and this can be done only by reading old books.&quot;

-Contending For Our All by John Piper, page 11</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote from C.S. Lewis:</p>
<p>&#8220;There is a strange idea abroad that in every subject the<br />
ancient books should be read only by the professionals, and<br />
that the amateur should content himself with the modern<br />
books&#8230;. [Students are directed not to Plato but to books on<br />
Plato]— all about ‘isms’ and inﬂuences and only once in<br />
twelve pages telling him what Plato actually said&#8230;. But if<br />
he only knew,the great man, just because of his greatness, is<br />
much more intelligible than his modern commentator&#8230;.<br />
Now this seems to me topsy-turvy. Naturally, since I<br />
myself am a writer, I do not wish the ordinary reader to<br />
read no modern books. But if he must read only the new or<br />
only the old, I would advise him to read the old. And I<br />
would give him this advice precisely because he is an ama-<br />
teur and therefore much less protected than the expert<br />
against the dangers of an exclusive contemporary diet. A<br />
new book is still on its trial and the amateur is not in a<br />
position to judge it. It has to be tested against the great<br />
body of Christian thought down the ages, and all its hid-<br />
den implications (often unsuspected by the author himself)<br />
have to be brought to light&#8230;. </p>
<p>It is a good rule, after reading a new book, never to<br />
allow yourself another new one till you have read an old<br />
one in between. If that is too much for you, you should at<br />
least read one old one to every three new ones&#8230;.<br />
We all, therefore, need the books that will correct the<br />
characteristic mistakes of our own period. And that means<br />
the old books. . . . We may be sure that the characteristic<br />
blindness of the twentieth century—the blindness about<br />
which posterity will ask, “But how could they have<br />
thought that?”—lies where we have never suspected it, and<br />
concerns something about which there is untroubled<br />
agreement between Hitler and President Roosevelt or<br />
between Mr. H. G. Wells and Karl Barth. None of us can<br />
fully escape this blindness&#8230;. The only palliative is to keep<br />
the clean sea breeze of the centuries blowing through our<br />
minds, and this can be done only by reading old books.&#8221;</p>
<p>-Contending For Our All by John Piper, page 11</p>
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		<title>By: Reading Outside of Our Own Era. &#171; Noah Kephart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reading Outside of Our Own Era. &#171; Noah Kephart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chris Zodrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Zodrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I whole-heartedly concur. Just one question: why do you consider The City of God the apex of his work? Because it is so large? Given the number of other writings, what makes this one so unique? 

God bless,

Chris Zodrow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I whole-heartedly concur. Just one question: why do you consider The City of God the apex of his work? Because it is so large? Given the number of other writings, what makes this one so unique? </p>
<p>God bless,</p>
<p>Chris Zodrow</p>
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		<title>By: Augustine for the 21st Century &#8211; Justin Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Augustine for the 21st Century &#8211; Justin Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bruce Ashford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Ashford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Galyon, Andrew, and Rebecca, thank you for your input.

Andrew, you are out of control! Hope you are doing well. 

Rebecca, if you like Pascal, you&#039;ll like Augustine! Andrew has pointed you in the right direction! Happy reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Galyon, Andrew, and Rebecca, thank you for your input.</p>
<p>Andrew, you are out of control! Hope you are doing well. </p>
<p>Rebecca, if you like Pascal, you&#8217;ll like Augustine! Andrew has pointed you in the right direction! Happy reading.</p>
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		<title>By: rebecca battah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rebecca battah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never attended college, and have never been challenged to read the &#039;old books&#039;, that is until my son attended Southeastern and got his classical education.  I have been challenged now and am taking my son Andrew up on that challenge.  I&#039;ve started with Pascals &quot;Christianity for Modern Pagans&quot; and am loving it.  I am anxious to start reading next, &quot;City of God&quot; by Augustine as well as beginning to broaden my thinking!  Thanks Dr. Ashford for your blogs...I am delighting in them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never attended college, and have never been challenged to read the &#8216;old books&#8217;, that is until my son attended Southeastern and got his classical education.  I have been challenged now and am taking my son Andrew up on that challenge.  I&#8217;ve started with Pascals &#8220;Christianity for Modern Pagans&#8221; and am loving it.  I am anxious to start reading next, &#8220;City of God&#8221; by Augustine as well as beginning to broaden my thinking!  Thanks Dr. Ashford for your blogs&#8230;I am delighting in them!</p>
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		<title>By: A. Battah</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. Battah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. I never tire of reading your thoughts, comments and criticisms.

2. Being &quot;trampled by a herd of evangelicals on their way to the Augustine section of the local bookstore&quot; is certainly one of the more hilarious things I have read in a recent while.

3. My life is surrounded by, as you say, &#039;chronological snobbery.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. I never tire of reading your thoughts, comments and criticisms.</p>
<p>2. Being &#8220;trampled by a herd of evangelicals on their way to the Augustine section of the local bookstore&#8221; is certainly one of the more hilarious things I have read in a recent while.</p>
<p>3. My life is surrounded by, as you say, &#8216;chronological snobbery.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. James Galyon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. James Galyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you were the one guy standing next to me in the B&amp;N while I was perusing St. Augustine.  Nice to know your name!  ;)

I&#039;m hoping a lot of younger guys take this post to heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you were the one guy standing next to me in the B&amp;N while I was perusing St. Augustine.  Nice to know your name!  ;)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping a lot of younger guys take this post to heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Ashford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Ashford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshua, you&#039;re not the only one who reads through one of the Great Books and doesn&#039;t &quot;get it&quot; all the first time through. But with a book like City of God, it is worth the blood, sweat, and tears that it takes to read a book that long. It is a book that deserves to be read several times even. Hope this series is helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua, you&#8217;re not the only one who reads through one of the Great Books and doesn&#8217;t &#8220;get it&#8221; all the first time through. But with a book like City of God, it is worth the blood, sweat, and tears that it takes to read a book that long. It is a book that deserves to be read several times even. Hope this series is helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Owens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Owens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very excited to read this series.  I read City of God a couple years ago though I must say I understood about a word per chapter ;)  Still,, I think the exposure was  good and the ancient books must not be forgotten!  It is, after all, in front of the ancient backdrop that today&#039;s books are written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very excited to read this series.  I read City of God a couple years ago though I must say I understood about a word per chapter ;)  Still,, I think the exposure was  good and the ancient books must not be forgotten!  It is, after all, in front of the ancient backdrop that today&#8217;s books are written.</p>
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