Comments on: What Hath Jerusalem to Do with Mecca? Evangelicals Respond to “A Common Word” http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/09/30/what-hath-jerusalem-to-do-with-mecca-evangelicals-respond-to-a-common-word/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:32:23 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Louis http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/09/30/what-hath-jerusalem-to-do-with-mecca-evangelicals-respond-to-a-common-word/comment-page-1/#comment-6685 Louis Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:11:24 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1105#comment-6685 Very good post. Worth reading and worth discussing. I feel confident that with the participants you have mentioned that good dialogue will occur without what seems to be the usual misstep or unnecessary, irrelevant concession that is typically made to foster good feelings but only ends up confusing the Christian message, or making Christians look feeble. Example in point - apologizing for the Crusades. My guess is that half of the people who are in a rush to make that apology know nothing of the Crusades. Besides, it's it makes about as much sense as insisting that people in continental Europe go around apologizing to Great Britain for attacking the Celts. Hoping and praying for a good meeting. Louis Very good post. Worth reading and worth discussing.

I feel confident that with the participants you have mentioned that good dialogue will occur without what seems to be the usual misstep or unnecessary, irrelevant concession that is typically made to foster good feelings but only ends up confusing the Christian message, or making Christians look feeble.

Example in point – apologizing for the Crusades. My guess is that half of the people who are in a rush to make that apology know nothing of the Crusades. Besides, it’s it makes about as much sense as insisting that people in continental Europe go around apologizing to Great Britain for attacking the Celts.

Hoping and praying for a good meeting.

Louis

]]> By: David Rathel http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/09/30/what-hath-jerusalem-to-do-with-mecca-evangelicals-respond-to-a-common-word/comment-page-1/#comment-6579 David Rathel Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:13:31 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1105#comment-6579 Thanks for the helpful article Dr. Keathley, it allowed me to understand this discussion better! Thanks for the helpful article Dr. Keathley, it allowed me to understand this discussion better!

]]> By: Patrick http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/09/30/what-hath-jerusalem-to-do-with-mecca-evangelicals-respond-to-a-common-word/comment-page-1/#comment-6563 Patrick Fri, 02 Oct 2009 04:23:04 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1105#comment-6563 Ken, Thanks for the response. I think this will be a great panel discussion, and I'm really interested to hear more. Thanks again for highlighting the event. Blessings, Patrick Ken,

Thanks for the response. I think this will be a great panel discussion, and I’m really interested to hear more.

Thanks again for highlighting the event.

Blessings,

Patrick

]]> By: Ken Keathley http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/09/30/what-hath-jerusalem-to-do-with-mecca-evangelicals-respond-to-a-common-word/comment-page-1/#comment-6477 Ken Keathley Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:34:06 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1105#comment-6477 Roger, as far as I know the answer is no. ETS has not provided podcasts in the past. Roger, as far as I know the answer is no. ETS has not provided podcasts in the past.

]]> By: Ken Keathley http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/09/30/what-hath-jerusalem-to-do-with-mecca-evangelicals-respond-to-a-common-word/comment-page-1/#comment-6476 Ken Keathley Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:25:14 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1105#comment-6476 Patrick, you make a good point. One of the difficulties of keeping a blogpost concise is that often important information is left out, or at least is unclear. The criticism against the Yale response (that I should have made clearer) is that it did not challenge the notion assumed by "A Common Word" that Muslims and Christians are, in fact, worshipping the same god. Since Christians worship the Triune God and Muslims do not, it seems pretty evident that that assumption is false. Patrick, you make a good point. One of the difficulties of keeping a blogpost concise is that often important information is left out, or at least is unclear. The criticism against the Yale response (that I should have made clearer) is that it did not challenge the notion assumed by “A Common Word” that Muslims and Christians are, in fact, worshipping the same god. Since Christians worship the Triune God and Muslims do not, it seems pretty evident that that assumption is false.

]]> By: Patrick http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/09/30/what-hath-jerusalem-to-do-with-mecca-evangelicals-respond-to-a-common-word/comment-page-1/#comment-6455 Patrick Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:31:31 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1105#comment-6455 Wow, thanks so much for posting this, Ken. I might not have known otherwise. This does look like a fascinating panel discussion, so I look forward to it. I do have one question, though, and please don't interpret this as antagonistic. I'm confused by a critique of the Yale response (not necessarily your's) that argues nothing "distinctively" Christian was mentioned. How does one engage an effort to address what is held in common by responding with doctrine already known by both parties to distinguish them from one another? At any rate, I have deep respect for the contributors to this blog, so my intent isn't to derail the conversation. I'm genuinely interested in anyone's thoughts, and I look forward to any updates on the panel. Thanks for the info, Patrick Wow, thanks so much for posting this, Ken. I might not have known otherwise. This does look like a fascinating panel discussion, so I look forward to it.

I do have one question, though, and please don’t interpret this as antagonistic.

I’m confused by a critique of the Yale response (not necessarily your’s) that argues nothing “distinctively” Christian was mentioned. How does one engage an effort to address what is held in common by responding with doctrine already known by both parties to distinguish them from one another?

At any rate, I have deep respect for the contributors to this blog, so my intent isn’t to derail the conversation. I’m genuinely interested in anyone’s thoughts, and I look forward to any updates on the panel.

Thanks for the info,

Patrick

]]> By: Roger Simpson http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/09/30/what-hath-jerusalem-to-do-with-mecca-evangelicals-respond-to-a-common-word/comment-page-1/#comment-6454 Roger Simpson Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:38:27 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1105#comment-6454 I wonder if the ETS will put up a podcast of this panel discussion? I wonder if the ETS will put up a podcast of this panel discussion?

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