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	<title>Comments on: Dispelling Myths Related to the Great Commission Resurgence</title>
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		<title>By: Danny Akin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Akin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, thank you for your comments. They are appreciated. I do think the GCRTF will have a report with recommendations out well before the Orlando Convention so that our people will have plenty of time to consider them. We are doing our best to respond to what Southern Baptists have asked us to do. In my judgment, what came to pass in Louisville had been coming for some time. Actually, we are behind the curve in reaching our nation and the nations. The time for action is now. May we by God&#039;s grace find His will for our Convention and get busy obeying it for His glory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, thank you for your comments. They are appreciated. I do think the GCRTF will have a report with recommendations out well before the Orlando Convention so that our people will have plenty of time to consider them. We are doing our best to respond to what Southern Baptists have asked us to do. In my judgment, what came to pass in Louisville had been coming for some time. Actually, we are behind the curve in reaching our nation and the nations. The time for action is now. May we by God&#8217;s grace find His will for our Convention and get busy obeying it for His glory.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Akin, 

I do pray for God&#039;s will to be done. Part of the misunderstanding and the spreading of rumors must surely stem from the way the task force came about in the first place. Right after the welcome, Dr. Mohler went to a microphone, was immediately recognized, the motion stated by as eloquent a man as we have in our convention, and then Southern Baptists voted, essentially, in favor of the Great Commission by 95%.  To have voted no would seem to be opposing Jesus.  Frankly, it all seemed a bit staged. It was certainly not a mandate of the philosophical framework that led to the creation of the Task Force.

It would be a gross mistake to take that vote in favor of forming a task force as endorsing the restructuring of so-called bloated state conventions, changing the Cooperative Program gift definitions, merging mission boards, moving more to a societal missions method, or 
trying to &quot;prove SBC worth&quot; to a younger generation of emerging church Calvinists.  Perhaps they are the ones who must answer to the SBC concerning their doctrines, actions and methods. 

My hope for the Great Commission Resurgence Task Force includes increased Cooperative Program support by the megachurches benefiting from the suburbanization and &quot;Walmartization&quot; of Baptists.  Since they have absorbed our bodies, bucks and baptisms, they must also absorb our debt to missionaries on the field in a manner equivalent percentage-wise to the declining older feeder churches located in the transitional communities from which people are migrating. Unless megachurches match the percentage of the smaller neighborhood churches, every time John and Mary Baptist move to the suburbs and transfer their tithe, the missionaries will receive an invisible cut in funding. 

I fully support partnering to achieve the Great Commission, but with respect, rumors are a two way street. The first draft of the Declaration was less than charitable in its assessment of our State Conventions, meaning that the entire process began in conflict.  Having begun in controversy and having been structured through an orchestrated process, how could there not be confusion and rumors abounding?  

I trust the truth will come out soon enough and any decisions in Orlando will be more thoroughly debated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Akin, </p>
<p>I do pray for God&#8217;s will to be done. Part of the misunderstanding and the spreading of rumors must surely stem from the way the task force came about in the first place. Right after the welcome, Dr. Mohler went to a microphone, was immediately recognized, the motion stated by as eloquent a man as we have in our convention, and then Southern Baptists voted, essentially, in favor of the Great Commission by 95%.  To have voted no would seem to be opposing Jesus.  Frankly, it all seemed a bit staged. It was certainly not a mandate of the philosophical framework that led to the creation of the Task Force.</p>
<p>It would be a gross mistake to take that vote in favor of forming a task force as endorsing the restructuring of so-called bloated state conventions, changing the Cooperative Program gift definitions, merging mission boards, moving more to a societal missions method, or<br />
trying to &#8220;prove SBC worth&#8221; to a younger generation of emerging church Calvinists.  Perhaps they are the ones who must answer to the SBC concerning their doctrines, actions and methods. </p>
<p>My hope for the Great Commission Resurgence Task Force includes increased Cooperative Program support by the megachurches benefiting from the suburbanization and &#8220;Walmartization&#8221; of Baptists.  Since they have absorbed our bodies, bucks and baptisms, they must also absorb our debt to missionaries on the field in a manner equivalent percentage-wise to the declining older feeder churches located in the transitional communities from which people are migrating. Unless megachurches match the percentage of the smaller neighborhood churches, every time John and Mary Baptist move to the suburbs and transfer their tithe, the missionaries will receive an invisible cut in funding. </p>
<p>I fully support partnering to achieve the Great Commission, but with respect, rumors are a two way street. The first draft of the Declaration was less than charitable in its assessment of our State Conventions, meaning that the entire process began in conflict.  Having begun in controversy and having been structured through an orchestrated process, how could there not be confusion and rumors abounding?  </p>
<p>I trust the truth will come out soon enough and any decisions in Orlando will be more thoroughly debated.</p>
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		<title>By: kamatu</title>
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		<dc:creator>kamatu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Akin, I too will continue to pray for the commission&#039;s work and I also understand the need for being able to work without being carped on for every awkward turn of phrase taken out of context.  I would like to make two points though:

1)  If at all possible, the GCR group should produce a report sometime after the next few meetings.  It has long been my observation that where facts are not given, rumors abound.  For example, you have two further posts on rumors and by publishing about them, you help squash them.

2)  I pray that as a part of the GCR&#039;s work, you look into the question of increasing education.  As you point out in your post about the GCR funneling money to the seminaries, this might be directly beyond the commission&#039;s mandate, but I don&#039;t see anything precluding the group from drawing and commenting on the fact that the abysmal state of Christian lay education limits believers.  Of course, I&#039;m of the firm opinion that if we can educate our fellow Christians on the basics of Christian theology and apologetics we will get the results the GCR resolution called for.  Whether we want them or not.

Yes, I know the education issue contains a large can of worms, but should we duck the hard things just because they are hard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Akin, I too will continue to pray for the commission&#8217;s work and I also understand the need for being able to work without being carped on for every awkward turn of phrase taken out of context.  I would like to make two points though:</p>
<p>1)  If at all possible, the GCR group should produce a report sometime after the next few meetings.  It has long been my observation that where facts are not given, rumors abound.  For example, you have two further posts on rumors and by publishing about them, you help squash them.</p>
<p>2)  I pray that as a part of the GCR&#8217;s work, you look into the question of increasing education.  As you point out in your post about the GCR funneling money to the seminaries, this might be directly beyond the commission&#8217;s mandate, but I don&#8217;t see anything precluding the group from drawing and commenting on the fact that the abysmal state of Christian lay education limits believers.  Of course, I&#8217;m of the firm opinion that if we can educate our fellow Christians on the basics of Christian theology and apologetics we will get the results the GCR resolution called for.  Whether we want them or not.</p>
<p>Yes, I know the education issue contains a large can of worms, but should we duck the hard things just because they are hard?</p>
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		<title>By: Louis</title>
		<link>http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/06/dispelling-myths-related-to-the-great-commission-resurgence/comment-page-1/#comment-6787</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck and God bless your efforts.  The fact that the commission is deliberating in private is not a concern.  Since any prescription or &quot;remedy&quot; proposed will face full scrutiny and discussion, it is silly to make something out of private meetings.  Now, if you guys were meeting in private and enacting your decisions, that would be different.

Hope your meetings go well.

Louis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck and God bless your efforts.  The fact that the commission is deliberating in private is not a concern.  Since any prescription or &#8220;remedy&#8221; proposed will face full scrutiny and discussion, it is silly to make something out of private meetings.  Now, if you guys were meeting in private and enacting your decisions, that would be different.</p>
<p>Hope your meetings go well.</p>
<p>Louis</p>
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		<title>By: Podcast Episode 11 :: SBC Today</title>
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		<dc:creator>Podcast Episode 11 :: SBC Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Akin: Dispelling Myths; Myth [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tim Rogers</title>
		<link>http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/06/dispelling-myths-related-to-the-great-commission-resurgence/comment-page-1/#comment-6737</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Akin,

You said the committee is hard at work &quot;gathering data, analyzing facts&quot;.  How would it be a privacy issue to release the data and facts the committee gathers for the rest of SB to see?  I agree that what the committee says about the facts and data should remain in the committee.  If &quot;facts are our friends&quot; then allow us all to be acquainted with our friends. :)

Praying for you and the GCRTF.

Blessings,
Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Akin,</p>
<p>You said the committee is hard at work &#8220;gathering data, analyzing facts&#8221;.  How would it be a privacy issue to release the data and facts the committee gathers for the rest of SB to see?  I agree that what the committee says about the facts and data should remain in the committee.  If &#8220;facts are our friends&#8221; then allow us all to be acquainted with our friends. :)</p>
<p>Praying for you and the GCRTF.</p>
<p>Blessings,<br />
Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Akin, many (I think most) of us respect and support the work you are doing.  A convention like the SBC will always have rumor-mongers and self-appointed experts who seem to think they have the secrets to the plan and understand the motives of everyone else. 

I am thankful to God for your work in the SBC and pray that you will continue to be led by Him in your service to the denomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Akin, many (I think most) of us respect and support the work you are doing.  A convention like the SBC will always have rumor-mongers and self-appointed experts who seem to think they have the secrets to the plan and understand the motives of everyone else. </p>
<p>I am thankful to God for your work in the SBC and pray that you will continue to be led by Him in your service to the denomination.</p>
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		<title>By: Chadd Pendergraft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chadd Pendergraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Akin, Thank you for your work and the work of the GCRTF. I will keep you all in my prayers.

Pastor Chadd Pendergraft
Crescent Valley Baptist Church
Tahlequah OK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Akin, Thank you for your work and the work of the GCRTF. I will keep you all in my prayers.</p>
<p>Pastor Chadd Pendergraft<br />
Crescent Valley Baptist Church<br />
Tahlequah OK</p>
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		<title>By: Skip Cook</title>
		<link>http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/06/dispelling-myths-related-to-the-great-commission-resurgence/comment-page-1/#comment-6724</link>
		<dc:creator>Skip Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Akin;
It is very sad that many feel they need to know all. This is also a proble in our local churches which stops the Great Commission in its tracks because the focus is changed. I spend most of my time as a pastor putting out fires from false rumors among the membership. I understand why the meetings must be kept secret. One can feely speak and multipul ideas can flow without critism from those outside the process. The ones who complain or foster rumors are envious and shallow. Perhaps that is why we see the rumor mill so rampant in our churches. I support you and look forward to reading more. Praying for you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Akin;<br />
It is very sad that many feel they need to know all. This is also a proble in our local churches which stops the Great Commission in its tracks because the focus is changed. I spend most of my time as a pastor putting out fires from false rumors among the membership. I understand why the meetings must be kept secret. One can feely speak and multipul ideas can flow without critism from those outside the process. The ones who complain or foster rumors are envious and shallow. Perhaps that is why we see the rumor mill so rampant in our churches. I support you and look forward to reading more. Praying for you</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Akin</title>
		<link>http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/06/dispelling-myths-related-to-the-great-commission-resurgence/comment-page-1/#comment-6722</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Akin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Les, the ability to talk freely about sensitive issues requires confidentiality. Given the very honest conversations we have had in our first 2 meetings, I see the wisdom of this. It is simply necessary for us to do what we have been asked to do. Roger, we can only make actionable recommendations to the national Convention. We can, and I anticipate that we will, make suggestions to churches, associations and state conventions. That is the nature of our polity. My prayer is God will provide such a compelling vision that across the whole of our Convention there will be an excitement about the GCRTF report and a passion to &quot;go after the lost&quot; as never before for the glory of God. I am hopeful. Let&#039;s all pray to this end. If it happens, it will only be because God graciously does it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Les, the ability to talk freely about sensitive issues requires confidentiality. Given the very honest conversations we have had in our first 2 meetings, I see the wisdom of this. It is simply necessary for us to do what we have been asked to do. Roger, we can only make actionable recommendations to the national Convention. We can, and I anticipate that we will, make suggestions to churches, associations and state conventions. That is the nature of our polity. My prayer is God will provide such a compelling vision that across the whole of our Convention there will be an excitement about the GCRTF report and a passion to &#8220;go after the lost&#8221; as never before for the glory of God. I am hopeful. Let&#8217;s all pray to this end. If it happens, it will only be because God graciously does it.</p>
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