Comments on: Myth #7: The GCRTF is about diluting our Baptist identity and distinctives so that we begin to look more like the American Evangelical Convention than the Southern Baptist Convention. http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/24/myth-7-the-gcrtf-is-about-diluting-our-baptist-identity-and-distinctives-so-that-we-begin-to-look-more-like-the-american-evangelical-convention-than-the-southern-baptist-convention/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:19:45 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: A.J. Metcalf http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/24/myth-7-the-gcrtf-is-about-diluting-our-baptist-identity-and-distinctives-so-that-we-begin-to-look-more-like-the-american-evangelical-convention-than-the-southern-baptist-convention/comment-page-1/#comment-7664 A.J. Metcalf Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:02:38 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1222#comment-7664 The "leadership of the congregation", what does it mean? What doesn't it mean? How has the Biblical Illiteracy we've heard so much about impact the health and determine the direction of a local church? With the mish mash of doctrinal beliefs held in our congregations, it's a wonder that we're in as good a shape as we're in! The “leadership of the congregation”, what does it mean? What doesn’t it mean? How has the Biblical Illiteracy we’ve heard so much about impact the health and determine the direction of a local church? With the mish mash of doctrinal beliefs held in our congregations, it’s a wonder that we’re in as good a shape as we’re in!

]]> By: Danny Akin http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/24/myth-7-the-gcrtf-is-about-diluting-our-baptist-identity-and-distinctives-so-that-we-begin-to-look-more-like-the-american-evangelical-convention-than-the-southern-baptist-convention/comment-page-1/#comment-7614 Danny Akin Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:18:56 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1222#comment-7614 Thanks guys. Been traveling and had to phone in the correction. Meant "elder rule" was not an option for us as Baptist but got it turned around in the various drafts of the article. Appreciate your grace and understanding. I assure you all that there is no Presbyterian blood running thru my veins! You all have a great week serving King Jesus, and pray for our GCRTF meeting. Thanks guys. Been traveling and had to phone in the correction. Meant “elder rule” was not an option for us as Baptist but got it turned around in the various drafts of the article. Appreciate your grace and understanding. I assure you all that there is no Presbyterian blood running thru my veins! You all have a great week serving King Jesus, and pray for our GCRTF meeting.

]]> By: Stephen Roberts http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/24/myth-7-the-gcrtf-is-about-diluting-our-baptist-identity-and-distinctives-so-that-we-begin-to-look-more-like-the-american-evangelical-convention-than-the-southern-baptist-convention/comment-page-1/#comment-7600 Stephen Roberts Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:53:22 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1222#comment-7600 Thanks, Dr. Akin for your work on discussing these rumors and shedding some light on what this is really about, THE GREAT COMMISSION! You and the GCRTF keep up the good work, I am praying for you. About the elder vs. congregational thing, it's a word game for the most part. Pastor(s), Elder(s), Staff ect. led (in the sense of vision, direction and leadership. Congregational rule, each church is autonomous and is free to set up any voting guidelines, decision making process they believe is biblically faithful and wise. And both of these are done under the Lordship of Christ. Thanks, Dr. Akin for your work on discussing these rumors and shedding some light on what this is really about, THE GREAT COMMISSION! You and the GCRTF keep up the good work, I am praying for you.
About the elder vs. congregational thing, it’s a word game for the most part. Pastor(s), Elder(s), Staff ect. led (in the sense of vision, direction and leadership. Congregational rule, each church is autonomous and is free to set up any voting guidelines, decision making process they believe is biblically faithful and wise. And both of these are done under the Lordship of Christ.

]]> By: Les Puryear http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/24/myth-7-the-gcrtf-is-about-diluting-our-baptist-identity-and-distinctives-so-that-we-begin-to-look-more-like-the-american-evangelical-convention-than-the-southern-baptist-convention/comment-page-1/#comment-7572 Les Puryear Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:49:34 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1222#comment-7572 Thank you, Dr. Akin. Thank you, Dr. Akin.

]]> By: Les Puryear http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/24/myth-7-the-gcrtf-is-about-diluting-our-baptist-identity-and-distinctives-so-that-we-begin-to-look-more-like-the-american-evangelical-convention-than-the-southern-baptist-convention/comment-page-1/#comment-7571 Les Puryear Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:44:26 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1222#comment-7571 I received a text message that the phrase "elder rule" was a typo. The post has been changed to "congregationalism" instead of "elder rule." Les I received a text message that the phrase “elder rule” was a typo. The post has been changed to “congregationalism” instead of “elder rule.”

Les

]]> By: Daniel Akin http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/24/myth-7-the-gcrtf-is-about-diluting-our-baptist-identity-and-distinctives-so-that-we-begin-to-look-more-like-the-american-evangelical-convention-than-the-southern-baptist-convention/comment-page-1/#comment-7570 Daniel Akin Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:43:40 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1222#comment-7570 Tom and Les,Sorry about that skip of the pen! That should read congregationalism, not elder rule. Tom and Les,Sorry about that skip of the pen! That should read congregationalism, not elder rule.

]]> By: Tom Bryant http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/24/myth-7-the-gcrtf-is-about-diluting-our-baptist-identity-and-distinctives-so-that-we-begin-to-look-more-like-the-american-evangelical-convention-than-the-southern-baptist-convention/comment-page-1/#comment-7569 Tom Bryant Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:18:55 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1222#comment-7569 So "elder rule" is a baptist distinctive? Thought maybe it would be congregational rule? So “elder rule” is a baptist distinctive? Thought maybe it would be congregational rule?

]]> By: Louis http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/24/myth-7-the-gcrtf-is-about-diluting-our-baptist-identity-and-distinctives-so-that-we-begin-to-look-more-like-the-american-evangelical-convention-than-the-southern-baptist-convention/comment-page-1/#comment-7568 Louis Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:47:40 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1222#comment-7568 This trend is already happening. It has been happening for years. But I don't think that the GCR task force will get close to any of these issues. I am one who does think that the SBC should change its name so that it has more of a national, rather than regional name. That was actually discussed decades ago for the first time, but it has never gone anywhere. But the doctrines of believer's baptism etc. should be maintained. Louis This trend is already happening. It has been happening for years.

But I don’t think that the GCR task force will get close to any of these issues.

I am one who does think that the SBC should change its name so that it has more of a national, rather than regional name. That was actually discussed decades ago for the first time, but it has never gone anywhere.

But the doctrines of believer’s baptism etc. should be maintained.

Louis

]]> By: Les Puryear http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/24/myth-7-the-gcrtf-is-about-diluting-our-baptist-identity-and-distinctives-so-that-we-begin-to-look-more-like-the-american-evangelical-convention-than-the-southern-baptist-convention/comment-page-1/#comment-7565 Les Puryear Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:10:56 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1222#comment-7565 When did "elder rule" become a baptist essential? What happened to congregational polity? When did “elder rule” become a baptist essential? What happened to congregational polity?

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