Comments on: On GCR Myths (And Those Who Spread Them) http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/29/on-gcr-myths-and-those-who-spread-them/ Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:13:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: kamatu http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/29/on-gcr-myths-and-those-who-spread-them/comment-page-1/#comment-8574 kamatu Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:27:35 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1266#comment-8574 Although I've not heard the particular myths brought up in this series, I found them interesting to read and plausible myths to me. As I said early on in the series, the GCR task force needs confidential sessions, but should provide as much open communication as possible. The greatest fear I have about the GCR efforts you highlighted in your blog post: "I sincerely hope that one day some folks in the SBC will look back and regret that they were complicit in myth-mongering and other types of “cloak-and-dagger” tactics like character assassination, spurious interpretations of Baptist history, misuse of authority, and misrepresentation of the opinions, actions, or priorities of others. I believe this type of stuff is the single biggest reason so many have left the SBC or on the verge of doing so. And I don’t blame them." The SBC has been through enough of that for the last few decades and can the GCRTF weather the pressures from that? Can their report make it through that kind of politics without it mutating into just another program? Although I’ve not heard the particular myths brought up in this series, I found them interesting to read and plausible myths to me. As I said early on in the series, the GCR task force needs confidential sessions, but should provide as much open communication as possible.

The greatest fear I have about the GCR efforts you highlighted in your blog post:

“I sincerely hope that one day some folks in the SBC will look back and regret that they were complicit in myth-mongering and other types of “cloak-and-dagger” tactics like character assassination, spurious interpretations of Baptist history, misuse of authority, and misrepresentation of the opinions, actions, or priorities of others. I believe this type of stuff is the single biggest reason so many have left the SBC or on the verge of doing so. And I don’t blame them.”

The SBC has been through enough of that for the last few decades and can the GCRTF weather the pressures from that? Can their report make it through that kind of politics without it mutating into just another program?

]]> By: Louis http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/29/on-gcr-myths-and-those-who-spread-them/comment-page-1/#comment-7911 Louis Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:15:26 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1266#comment-7911 Shane: Just sometimes! Thanks for noticing. Take care. Louis Shane:

Just sometimes!

Thanks for noticing.

Take care.

Louis

]]> By: Shane http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/29/on-gcr-myths-and-those-who-spread-them/comment-page-1/#comment-7907 Shane Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:09:43 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1266#comment-7907 Louis, I was just wondering if you comment on every blog post on here. Almost everything I look at I see a response by you. You must have a lot of spare time. Louis,
I was just wondering if you comment on every blog post on here. Almost everything I look at I see a response by you. You must have a lot of spare time.

]]> By: Louis http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/10/29/on-gcr-myths-and-those-who-spread-them/comment-page-1/#comment-7902 Louis Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:58:58 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1266#comment-7902 Nathan: It is not illegitimate for a person to inquire about the person or place from which a myth is emanating. But - any person making an argument can certainly point to issues or objections that have been raised directly, indirectly, or by inference might be raised. This happens all the time in debate as a way to bolster opinion. There is and should be no requirement for "chapter and verse" citations to detractors or would-be detractors. As I said, a person might rightfully charge that a straw man has been created, and say so. But the absence of a written expression of the "myth" doesn't damn or delegitimize the argument addressing it. Plus, in this case, don't we all recognize these myths as things we have heard in various discussions with people, regardless of whether the myths have made it into official print? Louis Nathan:

It is not illegitimate for a person to inquire about the person or place from which a myth is emanating.

But – any person making an argument can certainly point to issues or objections that have been raised directly, indirectly, or by inference might be raised. This happens all the time in debate as a way to bolster opinion. There is and should be no requirement for “chapter and verse” citations to detractors or would-be detractors.

As I said, a person might rightfully charge that a straw man has been created, and say so. But the absence of a written expression of the “myth” doesn’t damn or delegitimize the argument addressing it.

Plus, in this case, don’t we all recognize these myths as things we have heard in various discussions with people, regardless of whether the myths have made it into official print?

Louis

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