Comments on: The Future of the Southern Baptist Convention (Pt. 7) http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/12/22/the-future-of-the-southern-baptist-convention-pt-7/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:32:23 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Daniel L. Akin « Baptist Theologians http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/12/22/the-future-of-the-southern-baptist-convention-pt-7/comment-page-1/#comment-16477 Daniel L. Akin « Baptist Theologians Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:46:28 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1473#comment-16477 [...] Future of Southern Baptist Convention (Part 7) [...] [...] Future of Southern Baptist Convention (Part 7) [...]

]]> By: kamatu http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/12/22/the-future-of-the-southern-baptist-convention-pt-7/comment-page-1/#comment-11081 kamatu Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:46:17 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1473#comment-11081 Forgive me if I have misread this, but your point #1 sounds a bit off. It sounds as if you are defining everything in terms of Matthew 28:19 (go, make disciples, baptize) while neglecting Matthew 28:20 (teach). At least that is the impression I get when I read the big emphasis on missions, assaulting and sending. Who does the followup? Down in #6, you want to make this a pastor motivated and led thing, which is good, but I doubt will get the results you desire, at least with the methodology buzzwords I seem to be reading. Not that I'm in disagreement with your sentiments, but the focus needs to be on the congregation, because those are the people who will "Go, Send or Disobey". One reason I disagree with the methodology is because if it becomes even a hint of "the pastor is in charge of motivating 'George' to go", then do you want to make a guess at how many congregants will be thinking "I'm good, it is Preacher Billy Bob's job to get Brother George moving, I just have to drop another dollar in" and do _nothing more_? The pastors' should be thinking in terms of replacing themselves and cutting the congregation loose. Hmmm, I made a comment to your previous point and this makes me wonder if it is more important in SBC "missional" politics to make sure that the church gets a big $$ in the official contribution kitty rather than helping out a bunch of little things that don't produce big $$ that can go in reports....... Forgive me if I have misread this, but your point #1 sounds a bit off. It sounds as if you are defining everything in terms of Matthew 28:19 (go, make disciples, baptize) while neglecting Matthew 28:20 (teach). At least that is the impression I get when I read the big emphasis on missions, assaulting and sending. Who does the followup?

Down in #6, you want to make this a pastor motivated and led thing, which is good, but I doubt will get the results you desire, at least with the methodology buzzwords I seem to be reading. Not that I’m in disagreement with your sentiments, but the focus needs to be on the congregation, because those are the people who will “Go, Send or Disobey”.
One reason I disagree with the methodology is because if it becomes even a hint of “the pastor is in charge of motivating ‘George’ to go”, then do you want to make a guess at how many congregants will be thinking “I’m good, it is Preacher Billy Bob’s job to get Brother George moving, I just have to drop another dollar in” and do _nothing more_?

The pastors’ should be thinking in terms of replacing themselves and cutting the congregation loose.

Hmmm, I made a comment to your previous point and this makes me wonder if it is more important in SBC “missional” politics to make sure that the church gets a big $$ in the official contribution kitty rather than helping out a bunch of little things that don’t produce big $$ that can go in reports…….

]]> By: Ken http://betweenthetimes.com/2009/12/22/the-future-of-the-southern-baptist-convention-pt-7/comment-page-1/#comment-10777 Ken Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:22:07 +0000 http://betweenthetimes.com/?p=1473#comment-10777 Wow, "...but let’s face it, they can only go as far as the pastor’s passion and support for the project will allow." This is so true. In seeking to mobilize pastors and staff in SB life for missions I have found that few (In comparison to the 44,000 out there) give a second thought to the ethne. I am praying and hoping that a revitalization will take place in our churches for missions. Our conversations and rewards in SBC life need to shift from "how big is your church, how big is your budget, or how many did you have last Sunday" to How many have you sent out this year! Wow,
“…but let’s face it, they can only go as far as the pastor’s passion and support for the project will allow.”

This is so true. In seeking to mobilize pastors and staff in SB life for missions I have found that few (In comparison to the 44,000 out there) give a second thought to the ethne.

I am praying and hoping that a revitalization will take place in our churches for missions.

Our conversations and rewards in SBC life need to shift from “how big is your church, how big is your budget, or how many did you have last Sunday” to

How many have you sent out this year!

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