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On the Dangers of Seminary (Pt. 3): The Danger of Allowing Seminary to Replace Church

Aug 24th, 2010 by Bruce Ashford Print This Post

Hebrews 10: 24-25: “And let us…not [forsake] the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another….”

Ephesians 4:1-3: “I, therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you to walk worthy of the calling with which you were called, with all lowliness and gentleness, with longsuffering, bearing with one another in love, endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.”

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My years in college were four of the best years of my life. Those were years that God taught me foundational truths about himself, and allowed me to experience the power of his gospel. I served as a youth pastor at Salemburg Baptist church, a co-captain of the FCA on campus, and together with my friend, J. D. Greear, led a Monday night Bible study where we were able in the power of God’s gospel to speak into the lives of college students from every imaginable background.

By the time I entered seminary, I had resigned my job as a youth pastor and was a full-time “youth evangelist.” I traveled and preached to youth and college students, calling them to faith in Christ. Those were great days. I have great memories of preaching at Camp Caswell, Crossroads Camps, South Mountain Baptist Camp, Go Tell Camps, Camp Willow Run, and who knows how many churches.

And boy, do I have stories to tell. One of my favorites occurred when I preached at a Four Square church in South Carolina. J. D. Greear went along with me. While we were on the ride, J. D. informed me that although he had never taken piano lessons, recently he had learned how to play two songs—the hymn Alleluia and the song Faithfully by Journey—so that he could impress a certain girl at college. [Hmmm.] Before too long, we arrived at the church. It so happened that the church pianist was sick that Sunday and there was no replacement for her (at a church of about 50 people). So, after the sermon, I informed the congregation that I had brought a pianist with me and he would play the invitation hymn—Alleluia. I promptly called on J. D., and I’ve got to give it to him: He “cowboyed up” and walked straight to the piano, unfurling his two meat cleavers, and banging out the most jarring rendition of Alleluia that I have ever heard, or could ever have imagined. Finally, the invitation was over and the noise from the piano had ceased. After shaking hands and talking with some of the flock, J. D. and I found ourselves in a conversation with the two pastors (husband and wife) who were trying to anoint us with oil from a test tube of some sort. All of the sudden, Mrs. Pastor told J. D. and I that she had a word from the Lord. I could tell that she was very excited about the prophecy to which she was about to give birth. With baited breath we waited. And then she told us: The Lord had told her I would be a “world-wide” evangelist and J. D. would be my “devoted music man.” Finally, she and her husband prayed over us that God would give us the faith of Kathryn Kuhlman (faith healer, mentor to Benny Hinn). I kid you not.

Now this is only one of the many stories I could tell of those years. There are funny ones, such as the one above, and serious ones, about the victories of the gospel. But there is one type of story I cannot tell: the story of deep relationships formed in the church of which I was a covenanted member. It is not that I didn’t have any relationships, or that I didn’t want to be a part of my church. Instead, it was the fact that I scheduled myself to be gone preaching so much that I was not in any meaningful sense a member of my church.

The church, however, is where God disciples his children. It is where we “all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; that we should no longer be children tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, but, speaking the truth in love” (Eph 4:13-15a). If we want to come to unity in the faith, know Christ, mature spiritually, learn sound doctrine, and speak the truth in love, God’s intention is that we do so within the covenanted community. It is true that there are cases where God calls a man out and sends him where there is no church. This type of calling allows him to be a missionary or even a traveling preacher. However, as a young man I would have been wise to devote significantly more time to my church, being discipled by men older than I, learning to practice my gifts in relationship with the body, and growing up “in all things into Him, who is the head, Christ” (Eph 4:15-16).

Of course I am not saying that it is wrong to travel and preach. But I am saying that a young man should be deeply involved with his covenant community, discipling and being discipled. During my seminary years, I missed out on these things unwittingly. I missed out on teaching, fellowship, worship, and service. In fact, I visited Capitol Hill Baptist Church during this time, and spent a week there with some friends. I will never forget meeting Mark Dever, informing him of my ministry, and then realizing that not only was he not impressed, but he seemed to feel sorry for me. When he asked me in which ways I was involved in ministering to my own church, I had no answer. That was the first time I remember being forced to recognize the deep and abiding value of belonging to a covenanted body of believers.

For various reasons, seminary students are be tempted not to take seriously their call to membership in Christ’s church. Some students might take their preaching schedule more seriously than their calling to church membership. Others might look down upon their pastor because his sermons are not always the “masterpiece” they expect. Still others might consistently neglect church involvement because they find their studies more important. But to neglect the body of Christ is not God’s plan and is never to one’s benefit. I testify to this from personal experience, and offer some advice to students: If you neglect your calling to God’s church, you will hurt yourself, your church, and the future ministry to which Christ is calling you.

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11 Comments »

  1. Some are called to be evangelist and some are called to work in a local body. What shape would we be in if Paul had not had a call on his life to minister to many different congregations. If God was calling you to evangelism, Mark Denver should be ashamed for talking you out of it. Stand firm in your calling and waver not.

    Comment by Jonathan McLain — August 24, 2010 @ 9:01 am

  2. Jonathan, thank you for taking the time to comment. You are right that some are called to special ministries that reduces their involvement with the local church. Paul was an apostolic missionary, for example. But for me, at age 21, I needed to balance my time preaching at other churches with my time being immersed in my own church. I needed to make myself available for what my church could have provided for me: accountability, encouragement,teaching of the Word, etc.

    Comment by Bruce Ashford — August 24, 2010 @ 11:59 am

  3. Good word, Bruce.

    I made a very similar error coming out of college. In my case, I graduated and immediately went overseas for a year, which was good.

    But when I came home, I immediately got married and committed my wife and I to be part of (work at) a church that was totally messed up.

    I arrogantly thought, “We don’t need this church to minister to us. We understand the Gospel and we’re walking with the Lord. But these people need us to minister to them.”

    It ended up making for a very rough beginning in our marriage, and it has taken years to recover.

    To guys like Jonathan: Go for it! Dream big! Attempt great things for God. But make sure you’re ready, and make sure you do it Biblically.

    Comment by Zack (@zacharyb) — August 24, 2010 @ 3:17 pm

  4. Zach, right on. We never reach an age when we don’t need to be discipled by the redeemed community.

    Comment by Bruce Ashford — August 24, 2010 @ 9:53 pm

  5. Bruce,

    You’re right on with this blog. As a Lead Pastor I strongly encourage seminary students particpate in our covenant community.

    Derwin L. Gray

    Comment by Derwin Gray — August 24, 2010 @ 10:30 pm

  6. Derwin, its been a long time! Great to hear from you. Thanks for visiting the site. Hope to have you to campus some time.

    Comment by Bruce Ashford — August 25, 2010 @ 7:43 am

  7. I think it’s interesting that my first experience with all three of you (Derwin, Bruce, and JD) was at various times that you came and spoke at NC State Campus Crusade meetings.

    Bruce, you came and told us how you had just been kicked out of a “closed country in Central Asia”.

    After I graduated, I went to, and was subsequently kicked out of, a “closed country in Central Asia”.

    And Derwin, you were the first person I ever heard preach on Creation who didn’t sound like an arrogant zealot. Plus, now I can say that I tossed a football with a pro!

    Comment by Zack (@zacharyb) — August 25, 2010 @ 8:04 am

  8. And not to leave anybody out: JD, you are now my pastor, and this week we kicked off the first Summit small group in Granville County so…. trump card.

    Comment by Zack (@zacharyb) — August 25, 2010 @ 8:07 am

  9. Bruce,
    Great advice! I cherish my 6 years in seminary while serving also serving as a youth and associate pastor. The wisdom, teaching, experience, and friendships that were made helped me mature in my faith. Love the local church and they will love you in return. Blessings,
    David Shinault

    Comment by David Shinault — August 25, 2010 @ 8:19 am

  10. Zach and David, thanks for the good words…

    Comment by Bruce Ashford — August 26, 2010 @ 10:45 am

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